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Here is where we can discuss anything to do with DVD, the extra scene, the deleted scenes, the interviews.

 

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Right! Well for me the scene was touching, cute, a bit awkward (in the grand BH tradition) and the perfect set-up to a sixth series. Strangely, Tom doesn't mind so much that it's an illusion - "maybe this was always supposed to happen" - but it seems it's Hal's conscience that is most perturbed.

It's really just what I hoped. More please!!

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Two words - freaking amazing!

For me ''twas the perfect ending





Ps:- Anybody seen the deleted scene with Hal, Alex, Crumb & Alan? Why on Earth was that cut?

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Yes, I thought that scene was a crucial development for both Hal and Alex. I'm tempted to try making my own edit and add it back in. It's also fascinating seeing the raw footage, as shot, with indistinct sound mixing and all very brightly lit with no colour grading. The club scene was pretty funny too!

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I loved the club scene. In fact those two scenes made me like Alan & Crumb more, maybe because you actually saw their friendship there.

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WOW!!! How amazing was that!!! I knew it was a dream!! Totally wide open foa future series or whatever now! yipeeeeeeeeee!!!! :D xx



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A little stab in my heart for 2 reasons.

-Last new scene
- I really wanted them to be free.

BUT there are 2 sides to everything and I do agree it leaves things open for BH to return.

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Yes it is open for a new series. The final bit where all three of them are standing reminds me of the final moment of series three. So its could lead to new series or be left to the imaginations of the fan and the fan fiction writers, as LT said x


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OK so I let out a scream when reading the comments. To be honest I always thought it was a dream. I'm gutted as I can not watch the vid coz its been taken off. :(

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Obviously I haven't seen the extra scene (and I'm freaking dying over here) but I'm glad to know that it leaves things wide open for a 6th season if the powers that be were to grant it.



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i havent got my DVD yet so came here for a cheeky look to see if i can get a spoiler! so its a dream then, they didnt become human! i'll be honest i didnt think it was a dream, i really thought they became human. im secretly quite glad tho, im kind of fond of vampire Hal and all his sides.....just a little ;-p

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For those who haven't seen it. This link should take you to the extra scene

http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xyssy4

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Thanks. I tried to watch it but since it's a shot of a TV screen with a bit of glare I can't completely make out what they are saying.  Because of the difference in accents I need to see their lips move.  I'm sure someone will put it on YT eventually. I'm glad to have an idea of what to expect with the scene though. Thanks again.



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Yeah it is a bit hard to make out. I had to use my headphones and my phone. its amazing what I could make out on it. :D

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Has any got the being human series 5 dvd because i have it and i've watched the exclusive scene and its not all that bad

if you would like to know what happens you can ask me and i will tell you in much detail as possible smile



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Well, I've seen it. Overall happy that they didn't become human and I prefer 'alternate reality' to 'dream' but i am very perplexed to say the least.

Toby said it would be an open ending that would be left open and that we'd be talking about for years so my question is why did we need the exclusive scene at all? It's basically told us that they didn't become human so that ruins it for those who wanted to believe in the happy ending.

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I guess the exclusive scene was there partly to confirm that the 'happy ending' was in fact a dream, but also to tell us that they realised this and didn't live out their lives in a dream world. Although I do wonder what would have happened if they hadn't figured it out, and had grown old and eventually died in the dream...would they pass over, or would they go back to the real world?

I'm glad it was left open - we'll never truly know if they defeated the Devil once they realised they were in a dream. And if they were to kill the Devil in reality, what would happen then? Would they all die, as Captain Hatch said before he put them in their separate dreams? Or would vampires and werewolves become human, and ghosts pass over? Or would ghosts stay as ghosts?

As the Lady Mary once said: "I suppose this must all be a bit of a head****."

Yes. Yes it is. But I don't mind :)



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Toby said it would be an open ending that would be left open and that we'd be talking about for years so my question is why did we need the exclusive scene at all? It's basically told us that they didn't become human so that ruins it for those who wanted to believe in the happy ending.





On Toby's interview on disc 1, he says he wanted the story "to have a comma, not a full stop ... As their story now belongs to the fans"
IMO there's nowhere to go with once everybody's human, plus it brings out far too many plot holes for my liking :p (Like what happens to all the ghosts? how do they get their bodies back?)

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I'm personally happy that the question of whether it was reality or not has been answered. It was doing my head in having all these theories flying around! I'm happy that we know right up to that point but we have no idea what they are going to go back to!

Plus was looking hot in that suit......I totally chatted to him while he was wearing that suit...I was slightly drunk....it was awesome ;)

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just watched the scene Mrs yorke kindly put up (havent got my dvd yet) and im glad they are still who they are and not human but im a bit dissipointed with the scene, i thought it could of been a bit better and mabe longer as its an ending. i thought the Alex bucket lists scenes were better. i prob will change my mind once ive got the dvd and watched it again....and again...and again!

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On Toby's interview on disc 1, he says he wanted the story "to have a comma, not a full stop ... As their story now belongs to the fans" 
IMO there's nowhere to go with once everybody's human, plus it brings out far too many plot holes for my liking :p (Like what happens to all the ghosts? how do they get their bodies back?)


 I get that but my opinion is either explain that in the show itself or not at all. As far as I'm concerned it was pretty obvious it wasn't real anyway but I found this scene badly written, putting it all on a plate for us and in one moment blunting the power of the final 20 minutes of episode 6



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Ok.  So I just watched the video that was posted by someone from this forum that shows the extra dvd scene.  Was that all?!  The online episodes were longer!  They couldn't have given us a WHOLE episode!  You know.  One whole hour!  They take the show away from us and now I feel screwed out of an extra scene. 

 

Sorry.  Just had a "Mitchell, Real Hustle" moment.  Still feel screwed though.



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Well, at least now we know that the Trinity did defeat the Devil: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-dies-aged-87

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I watched the video that Mrs Yorke posted the link for.  I was eventually able to make out most of it. 

I have conflicting feelings about the scene.  I'm glad to know they aren't human and are going to try to go back to save the world, since that leaves things open for further exploration if the opportunities arise. However, I feel like the scene could have been a bit longer.  I wanted a little more from the Hal/Alex relationship. It does beat the heck out of nothing though.  Also, in my eyes Toby can do no wrong because he gave us this mindblowingly awesome show. 

 



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Su! OMG... he was wearing THAT suit! as the catchphrase goes...

"HOT!"....

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Well, aside from the fact that Damien looked simply dreamy delish, and I liked Alex's new jacket, I feel gutted.

It's all very well saying that it is wide open to a sixth series, but - we're NOT going to get one! I quite enjoy imagining little 'getting used to being human' stories whirring round my head, but I really don't have the time to devote to getting them out of this situation. And if I leave it to fanfic writers, well that's all very well, but the only fics I've seen that have tried to tackle this theme have been ... v gloomy ... or poorly written ... or both.

Am I alone in wanting a sort-of-happy ending for these characters?

Pah! Am devoting my energy to petitioning BBC3 to make a second series of In The Flesh, but probably on a loser with that one too. :(

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I thought the scene was just enough and confirmed what most of us already suspected.

Truly believe this show has just been put on hold for the moment hence the requirement for this extra scene. There will be a series 6 in the future, maybe give it a couple of years and I think it will be revived (or is that just wishful thinking)?

Lord Toby's interview was interesting in that he stated the show "stopped" there - didn't say finished (chose his words carefully).

Was a little disappointed that during the interviews, there was no reference to us fans/bloggers as was present with the older cast. Only reference was from Lord T saying that the show is now for us to interpret as we wish.

Thought Damo was very upset about the show coming to an end and so was Kate. Michael didn't seem to offer an opinion but they all seemed to share a very special bond and friendship which was also evident with the previous cast - amazing feat for a show to have these special connections within all the cast combinations and am sure they'll all remain firm friends for a long time to come.

Anyway if not another series, please a full length film would be fabulous !!



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@Lycan A little bit, but in my defence I was out all day and didn't hear about it until my mum sent me a text saying "ding dong the witch is dead" :)

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Yes, the final scene was perfect in my opinion and yes, were someone to wave a magic wand and recommission (or if i win the Euromillions jackpot, whichever happens first! ) then it would leave it open for a sixth series.

Yes, Hal looked hot in that suit (it looked like the suit he wore in s4 ep 7) complete with the shirt with the top button unloosened and no tie.

I think my favourite of the deleted scenes was the one where Crumb and Alan try to trick him into drinking blood. It was the fact that he shouted. He shouts very well, the "I'm Lord Henry Yorke" part made me, i have to admit, squeak. I think the only time he raised his voice before that was during s4 ep 3 when he tells Annie and Tom that he needs to think..."to breathe!", i don't think he shouted since, he's always been rather contained and quietly spoken.

The cast interviews were poignant, i was so sad all over again. Really enjoyed hearing all their thoughts and the interviews with Toby and Polly were especially interesting. Would have loved to have seen more 'behind the scenes' stuff though, there was nothing of that which is a shame as there were behind the scenes stuff in all the other previous DVD releases.

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Ruby, you're not the only one who squeed at that point! Damien played it perfectly (Even if Crumb's & Alan's reactions were a little strange)

 

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On Toby's interview on disc 1, he says he wanted the story "to have a comma, not a full stop ... As their story now belongs to the fans" 
IMO there's nowhere to go with once everybody's human, plus it brings out far too many plot holes for my liking :p (Like what happens to all the ghosts? how do they get their bodies back?)


 I get that but my opinion is either explain that in the show itself or not at all. As far as I'm concerned it was pretty obvious it wasn't real anyway but I found this scene badly written, putting it all on a plate for us and in one moment blunting the power of the final 20 minutes of episode 6


 Ahhhh point taken!

I do feel it would have been a very good opener to series 6, but you're right: it does take the edge slightly off the finale.



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well finally getting round to posting a comment (laptop has died so have had to wait for MrB to get off the PC)
I loved the scene, I watched it within 5 minutes of the postie delivering my much anticipated package yesterday. Hal looked HOT, Tom looked cute and happy and Alex was smitten with her beau then Hal started to talk about how perfect everything was, and the others in the restaurant turned and stood up and realization dawned that they were not in Kansas anymore. It has set us up perfectly for another series or maybe a film but the problem is, and I don't think anyone has brought this up yet, but if they were to make some more and they somehow managed to get back to our world, Hal would return to being Lord Harry York and Alex would have to kill the love of her life. Not sure I want to see that.

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Perhaps, or maybe Hal would "reset" when he goes back and go back to being good Hal. 



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I LOVE the deleted scene with hal alex crumb and alan. Damien is incredible in that scene!

"I AM LORD HENRY YORKE"

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tbh, I totally understand why the deleted scenes were... deleted. The Crumb, Alan ones just made me cringe and the scene they did with H&A at the Honolulu bar was odd and in a very bad way.

It was great to see the Lady Catherine fight scene that myself and two other bloggers were up to midnight in the cold watching and lucky enough to be at the monitors for.

It terms of interviews, I like Toby and Polly's interviews but the cast ones were pretty standard as expected! Though when Kate starts crying...!!

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There are worse scenes that made the final cut imo, like most of the ones involving Larry.

I agree the pretend blood drinking scene doesn't quite work, but it's a shame they didn't reattempt it in a slightly different way (all these scenes would play differently anyway with the correct colour timing, finished edit and full underscore), but of course they didn't have the time or budget flexibility. The short scene that follows on strikes me as a crucial piece in the puzzle of Hal & Alex's somewhat undernourished relationship.

Slight digression but I'm gonna say say it... I REALLY wish we'd had the full 8 episodes! For a start, so we could explore Crumb a bit more before he's done away with! - I do wonder why BH occasionally introduces (or reintroduces) characters so tortuously only to kill them off. Toby's interview basically confirms this was a budget issue again - so why go with the somewhat formulaic "supernatural of the week" approach when time is of the essence and we have an AMAZINGLY strong main cast??

Rewatching now, I find that eps 2 and 3 feel like sideshows to the series arc, and both a bit too reminiscent of a previous visiting ghost/false mentor plot. As such, they'd work a lot better if you didn't feel the whole time that the clock is ticking very loudly, not only on the season but the entire show!



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I thought The Larry episode was a strong episode personally though I agree about the clock ticking too quickly. As a whole this series was a bit too arc heavy, and yes 8 episodes would have given it time to breathe a little more.

As for Crumb, 3 episodes was more than enough(!!)

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the deleted scenes with Lady Catherine would have given more weight to her story I think, the feeding one was significant also in that is was outside Lord Hal's bed chamber, part of his then current 'army', fleshing out his context and the staking one fleshing out hers.

All the deleted scenes would have added so much to the characters and their relationships...yes we worked much of it out ourselves (Rook/Natasha, Rook/Alan) so maybe didn't need full storylines handed to us on a plate, but removing them removed some of the textural richness of the characters and the writing as it was intended to be. If we had had the Crumb and Alan in the club scene the actual scene we did have of them in the house with blood smeared on the walls wouldn't have felt so...remote ..to me atleast...the scene we got was meant to be shocking (and funny) but it also felt cold to me in that I couldn't connect with it, whereas now i have seen the club scene the painting just got bigger and brighter.

Both scenes with Hal and Alex seem just so flipping crucial to the dynamic between the 2, their relationship and their individual character arcs! It's pretty mega that Hal faked doing and becoming something that he then went on to do and become for real..i feel deprived of that layer of the/their story/stories. that scene gave Crumb an edge too.. and it was just too delicious hearing Hal shouting "I am Lord Henry Yorke and you will obey me"!


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I agree domino, the scene where they are cleaning up the blood is a pretty important scene and adds a lot to their relationship dynamic. We needed 8 episodes so that scenes like that could have happened and the characters could have been more understandable x

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Haven't watched the interviews yet, but of course I had to watch THAT scene and the deleted scenes asap. The last scene was alright. I had expected more of it, and as someone said: I didn't really need the extra explanation. It was good to see an extra Tom, Hal and Alex scene though. But mindblowing? Not really.

What impressed me once more was the Rook - Tom scene after Natasha's death - that should definitely have been in the series. The way you see Rook struggle with the consequences of his actions, and how he slowly realizes that Tom's perhaps not the monster he thought he was - brilliant.

Crumb and Alan in the club added a bit to their story as some of you already said, but as character's they were a bit too cliché for me. But then again, I didn't like Larry either, and the fact that there were only 6 episodes undoubtedly contributed to the feeling they took up space that could have been used more wisely.

Catherine I would have liked to see some more of, though, and the HH blood drinking scene added something special to the Hal-Alex developments. That could have been used in the series, but not necessarily with Crumb and Alan in it.



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I thought the extra 'Crumb' content from the deleted scenes was interesting.  I really liked Crumb in the first ep.  As a human he was irritatingly embarassing (which should have worked as an interesting comparison to vampire Crumb - the victim who got superpowers), and by the time he had killed Garath I thought he was going to develop into a really good character - he was chilling and maniacal.  So I was disappointed that he never really reached that potential. 

There were aspects of 'the devil' storyline which I liked, but these deleted scenes made me start thinking that Rook and Crumb as this series 'threat' could've worked really well.  The whole victim with superpowers idea combined with a governmental megalomaniac. Although I'm obviously thinking from the point of view that series 5 is the one that comes before series 6!



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Well I know I am a bit behind everybody else but I've finally got to watch the deleted scenes thanks to some kind person on YouTube. Firstly they were amazing! The Lord Henry scene OMG *swoon* and the Captain Hatch scene was brilliant, I don't understand why they didn't make the final cut. So many of the scenes should have put in the programmes.

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I really hope they release a movie now, sort of like they did with The Inbetweeners! I have to say, as I watched the final episode it never dawned on me that they could be in a dream. I guess I had wishful thinking of the series ending on a good note... SIGH

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No it's NOT and I'm so very glad of it.... two endings, not to choose between but to morph into eachother - cosy sofa but with nagging doubts AND poised for action, preferably starting with a three-onto-crowd food fight to put all other food fights to shame. That'll do me to be going on with.


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I think a movie would be immense, if a company like Working Title put their name to it... the possibilities...

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When we had the vote for what you want to happen next I voted for new series but now after watching the extra scene I think film would be better but now father reading comments and thinking how much was missed out to fit in story arc I'm thinking new series......... I just want more


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At long last I finally got my dvd today. I agree with those who don't find the additional scene not overly exciting. Nice as an extra or even a deleted scene (since we already figured out it wasn't real), but not meeting the expectations we put in it. And I also think it kind of takes away the pleasure of not knowing if or if it wasn't an alternative universe.

The interviews are lovely and it's great that the bucket list items are on as well. My alltime favourite extra scene being "woed in Paris".

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when THAT street sign was in the background it dawned on my that there are doodles and autographs on it as well. Is that true? And btw where did you put it? Is your BH shrine still in the making or finished in all its glory?

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